Does anyone have anything at all signed by Satoshi's PGP key? [combined summary]



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Published on: 2014-09-15T18:06:06+00:00


Summary:

In a series of email exchanges from 2014, the use of PGP Web of Trust (WoT) for identity verification is criticized. Jeff Garzik argues that a person's behavioral signature is more relevant and suggests that the online entity known as Satoshi's PGP signature would be fine if a pattern of use was established. The debate revolves around the effectiveness of in-person identity vetting versus online behavioral characteristics.Gregory Maxwell expresses concerns about the possibility of email servers replacing public keys and signatures. He requests that the discussion move to another list as it is off-topic. Matt Whitlock points out that simply attaching a public key to emails could allow the server to replace it, resulting in verification issues. The conversation shifts to the detection capabilities of publicly archived mailing lists and the flaws in PGP and its security measures.Thomas Zander suggests including a Bitcoin public key in his email signature as proof of identity. However, it is pointed out that email servers can replace the public key, causing verification problems. Signing messages becomes necessary to ensure the correct public key is used.The use of PGP for identity verification is deemed useless and "stupid geek wanking" by some. It is argued that a decentralized identity management system is needed, allowing the creation of new anonymous IDs when more security is required. The value of in-person vetting of identity is acknowledged but seen as frustrating. Guidelines suggest not trusting or signing an untrusted PGP or GPG key without verifying the person's identity in real life.The relevance of in-person vetting of identity within the Bitcoin community is debated. Jeff Garzik argues that the currency's development relies on code and electronic messages, making real-world identity irrelevant. He dismisses PGP WoT as useless and believes a person's behavioral signature is what matters. Brian Hoffman agrees that in-person vetting can be frustrating but insists on its undeniable value.The conversation also touches on psycho-analytical views on making love and the concept of PGP WoT. The trustworthiness of PGP keys is questioned, with guidelines suggesting in-person verification. The debate revolves around whether PGP is an effective tool for identity verification, with different opinions on its usefulness.The discussion includes Peter Todd questioning whether Satoshi ever used PGP and Thomas Zander pointing out the importance of trusted identity verification for using PGP or GPG keys effectively. The reliability of PGP for identifying Satoshi is questioned due to the lack of evidence.There is no evidence that Satoshi Nakamoto ever signed any private emails or forum posts with PGP, according to Jeff Garzik. This is consistent with information from other sources, including a tweet by Peter Todd. The claim that "Satoshi PGP signed everything" is doubted, and it is speculated that Satoshi may have created the PGP key only for security-related purposes.In an email communication, Peter Todd states that there is no evidence that Satoshi Nakamoto ever signed any communications with PGP. He questions the widely held belief that everything was signed but mentions the possibility of occasional signatures related to releases. Jeff Garzik is mentioned in the email as well.In a recent email, 'peter' states that there is no evidence that Satoshi Nakamoto ever cryptographically signed any communications. This contradicts the claim that "Satoshi PGP signed everything." An attachment of a signature file is included, but its relation to the previous statement is unclear.


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